Hi neu aus England

SteveW-66
Zitat:
Original von ChrisF-68
Hi, Steve and a warm welcome!
Great mods you did! One of the main-problems IMHO of the 2,5-engine are the HG-failures. Seems, you solved that problem? Tell us some details, we´re all interested!
Regards
Chris (driving Lee´s former GT)


Thanks for the welcome every one smile

Chris to answer your question
In stock form the 2.5 has a weaker thinner block than the 2.0.
I wouldnt push stock pistons above 400hp
And because therefore the gasket area is thinner, as it were, they can be more prone to head gasket failure.
however - most of the time it seems to be the pistons going. And on a previous 2.5 I destroyed two standard pistons.

(The problems with the newage hatch are different it is down to weak pistons combined with a poor map from the factory - subaru have lots of spare warenty engines tucked away as they wont admit there is a problem)

Anyway..back to my build. The 2.5 block is a semi closed block. so although a bit thin it is not as weak as people make out. Forged pistons are a must. Rods not so important and the stock crank is also good big power. A must however is the hand built strengthened liners flanged top and bottom to stop slip. This is a big part of making the engine reliable at big power. I then coupled this with the strongest heads that subaru ever made and had them reworked. These are V3/4 STI heads they are kings and comand a good price if they ever come up second hand.
I sourced the parts and got a very very good builder to build the engine.

Summary
So yes head gasket failure still a bit more likely than on a 2.0. The strength is mainly down to the quality of the build and componets used. However you are more likely to see a piston go than headgasket on a 2.5

A fully forged engine like mine sounds like it is broken when cold, It sounds like all the pistons are dead and mine drinks oil (some do some dont). Only when it is really warm and the pistons have swollen to fill the bores does it sound sweet and smooth.

The best big power build you can do is 2.3 on a closed deck block with Sti V3 heads - However that is big big money!!!

Best wishes
Steve

Just to add 2006 Hawkeye 2.5 Sti seem to suffer from this problem.
ChrisF-68
Thanks, Steve,
this is quite similar to our discussion here at the forum about the 2,5-failures... but here are more HG-failures than piston-deads... maybe because most of the HG-failures are on non- or not much tuned engines below 400 hp...
The only thing, I didn´t understand, is:
"A must however is the hand built strengthened liners flanged top and bottom to stop slip." I havo no idea so far, did you have a pic of that?
Best regards,
Chris
SteveW-66
I dont have a pic myself chris.
Here is a link that shows a flanged/top hat liner
http://www.columbiarovers.com/archives/234

Standard 2.5 liners should see over 400hp but occasionaly do crack. The main problem is that they can slip.

My liners were hand built - No slip like standard 2.5 liners and very very strong

Steve
AlexH-87
Welcome Steve! hallo You got a nice car!
MichaelL-69
Hi Chris,

bei dem hat liner handelt es sich um einen Einsatz der ein wandern an der Kopfdichtung verhindern soll. Sowas gabs schon zu Zeiten des Lancia Delta Intergale, da wurden auch Ringe in den Block eingesetzt um ein durchbrennen der Kopfdichtung zu verhindern. Diese Art der Blockbearbeitung war eigentlich den Gruppe A Motoren vorbehalten ( gab aber genug Gruppe G Deltas dies auch hatten ) Kostspielig aber extrem haltbar und belastbar. Augenzwinkern

Gruß Michael
WolfgangL-63
An dem link vom Steve sieht man es leider nicht genau was gemeint ist, aber so sehe ich das:



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Diese Buchsen haben wir schon im 2005 jahr eingesetzt.
Nachteilig ist:
-die buchsen können sich setzen
-relativ große unterschiedliche materialausdehnung

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ChristianA-75
Hi Steve,

welcome and nice car.
Where are you from? I just bought my STI near Dewsbury.
br chris
SteveW-66
Zitat:
Original von ChristianA-75
Hi Steve,

welcome and nice car.
Where are you from? I just bought my STI near Dewsbury.
br chris


Thanks Chris
I still have the final work to finish on it.
A harness bar has been fabricated to be bolted between the back struts for example. I need to upgrade the spark plugs and other odds and sods

I am from the south east - but my main man who looks after the car is right up in North East near Newcastle. And the car origonaly came from Cornwall. So it has really seen the whole of the UK in its life.

Which Sti did you buy?
Steve smile
ChristianA-75
H Steve,

I bought a 2002 STI PPP and I'm really lookiing forward to get the car registered in Austria at the beginning of next year.
BR
Chriis
KlausW-60
Steve war so nett und hat mich heute besucht hallo . Sein GT geht wie Hölle, man kommt gar nicht mehr aus dem Grinsen raus anbet . Da kann meine Gurke nicht ansatzweise mithalten. Sein Auto hat übrigens den dicksten und offensten Endschalldämpfer, den ich je gesehen habE großes Grinsen .
Hört sich auch so an. großes Grinsen
SteveW-66
Neu Spezifikation fur 2012

Winter work is -
The engine has been pulled - The end of the spak plug broke off - So No2 head having to be fully rebuilt
Cosworth head gaskets going on at the same time.
Upgrading the fuel pump.
Improving cooling to the brakes.


Engine
2.5 STI SCD block
Laystall-APi Stregthened liners flanged top and bottom
Omega forged billet pistons
Subaru Ring set to match
Crank bearing set - ACL Race - 3 layer lead, on copper, on steel.
Cosworth head gaskets
ARP Head studs 14mm
V4 Sti Heads - 3 angle valve seats, high temp valve stem oil seals, matched valve spring length. Lightweight hydraulic solid lifters with under bucket shims.
APi I beam Steel Rods with ARP L19 - 9000 rpm big end bolts fitted
APi Heavy duty Oil Catch Can that returns to the sump
Grp N Prodrive rally version baffled sump
New Subaru Radiator with Samco hoses
Mocal 16Row Oil cooler with remote filter
APi upgraded oil pump
Walbro 255l fuel pump – Being upgraded to B 044
Roger Clark lightened pulleys
Parallel Fuel rails with braided Hoses
Fuel Labs Fuel Pressure regulator with guage
Tufnol Manifold Spacers with O rings fitted
800 HKS Phase Two Injectors
NGK PFR 7B at .65mm gap
MD312T+ Turbo ceramic coated with heat blanket
Fully decated 3in Stainless exhaust Cobra Downpipe DEI wrapped
Tubular Headers GT 2 DEI wrapped
Harvey Uppipe DEI wrapped
Perrin 70 Diameter Induction Inlet Tract
Large K&N filter with trumpet
3 Port boost solenoid
Autobahn Front mount intercooler DEI wrapped

Ecu
SimTek
Anti Lag
Launch Control
Switchable Maps

Drivetrain
Fully striped and refurbed TY856WB1AA 6 Speed box non DCCD JDM box
1st-5th Close Ratio – Long 6th
(New 4,5,6 Syncros - these are the weaker ones. New 4th gear synchro hub. New rear drop gear bearings)
R160 3.9 rear diff – viscous not open
Carbonetics Light Weight Carbon Clutch rated to 520hp
Carbonetics light weight flywheel
New AP Racing Clutch

Brakes
335mm Godspeed grooved front discs
EBC Blue Stuff Carbon pads
Godspeed fully refurbished Subaru 4pot calipers – with stainless steel pistons.
Braided Hoses front and rear
Brake Bias Valve Mod – on bulkhead

Suspension
BC Adjustable Coilovers – BR Series Spring rate 5/4
ARB Front 22mm Adjstable
ARB Rear 22mm Adjustable
CDF Racing Droplinks Rear
CDF Racing Droplinks Front
CDF Racing ALK Kit
STI Alloy Front Arms
Set up with Prodrive suspension settings
BK Racing 17in Wheels with Goodyear F1 Aysmetric Tyres for road

Inside
Bolt in Roll Cage -7point - Paded
Four point harnesses
Fabricated Harness Bar
Fire extinguisher
Fuel Cut off switch
Racetech 2.5 Bar Boost gauge
Racetech Oil Pressure Gauge
Racetech Oil Temp gauge
Turbo timer
Wideband AFR
Phomular PS3 Knock analysier
SimTek Knock Detector
EGT Guage
Electriacl cut off - going in
RMD rally steering wheel
Race pedal set
Interior stripped

Needs the MAP looking at and to be weighed properly
Estimated power 480ps
Estimated weight 1200kg


Photo taken before the inside was stripped out. Window tints now removed.